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Pastor Chenevièr cons Trinity and for the use of reason

As for me, I found no trace in the scriptures. (...)
Require that the sharpness of mind of those who must be saved, it would - at least in my view - close the way of salvation to most men.

Sebastian Castellon, De arte dubitandi, Book II, On the Trinity


Of all the bastions of Protestantism in Geneva is probably the heart

If it was the homeland of the strictest form of the reformed religion in Europe - Calvin, Farel, Beza and Knox made it a Puritan theocracy in the 16th century - it was also the scene of the birth of a Protestantism dynamic and progressive. A certain man, Pastor Chenevièr was in one of the main protagonists.


Jean-Jacques Chenevière Cato was born December 20, 1783 in Geneva. Pastor's son Nicolas Chenevière he studied literature and philosophy. In 1801 he became a Freemason and in 1802 he began a career as a theologian. Having graduated from Shepherd in 1807 in Switzerland he will officiate at first (Dardagny) and France (Marseille, Paris)

In 1812 he married Geneva and officiates in the city and then in 1813 he was appointed to the diplomatic mission Grand Master of the Imperial University.

Finally in 1814 he was appointed pastor of St. Peter (Geneva).

The liberal theologian he is to be involved from this time very heavily in politics, which earned him a few flights thunderbolts.

In 1815 he was chaplain of the quota Geneva and in 1817 he was appointed professor of dogmatic theology and ethics at the Academy (named president three times between 1825 and 1858).

Chenevière is a theologian and writer whose works held in Geneva amounts to 44.

Among other things he founded the newspaper The Protestant Geneva (which later became The Protestant , now consolidated with the Gospel and Freedom magazine )


What is interesting in Chenevière position is that it is both a Liberal - he will be THE big opponent of the "Awakening" * ** Methodism establishing itself more strongly in the Reformed Church of Geneva - with all that that implies in the context of the time, but is also a man deeply attached to the authority and divine inspiration of the Bible.

Because of its position that it will conflict with both the supporters of the Revival and liberals with the fiercest criticism deeply attached to ***, in its opinion too.

course it will not be on the sidelines when it comes to attack the influence restored Catholicism in Geneva, especially in political and social affairs.


Chenevière wish list at the bottom is very simple: that Protestantism, while retaining the authority of Holy Scripture, gets rid of "causes delay in the progress of Reformed theology for borrow the title of a speech delivered in 1819.

Among these "causes" include for example the rejection of the use of reason, overuse of the authority of church fathers, the traditions, creeds and former reformers, passion for complex theological systems that dig a real gap between doctors and the Gospel message. In sum for

Chenevière, though he knows maintain a goal mind to the person of the great reformer of Geneva, the Protestant world must end with Calvinism.


It is obvious that if men like Michael Servetus and Sebastian Castellon could not be unknown to the pastor Chenevièr their respective works could still less does not count for him.


The travau x we are interested here primarily in its series of 6 trials theological whose first volume is devoted to the Trinitarian question.

A detailed list of volumes: From

theological system of the Trinity,

From hereditary depravity of man,

On the use of reason in matters of faith,

Confessions of faith

the benefits of our Lord Jesus Christ,

of predestination and some other Calvinist dogma.


In his essay on the Trinity, Chenevière tries to demonstrate that the dogma formulated from the councils does not comply with the Bible, does not reflect the thinking of the apostolic fathers, is opposed to reason, which is a gift from God and there is no need to believe in the Trinity for salvation but that it obtained by practicing love toward one another and in doing the will of the Father (Note that Castellon had already highlighted all that). He also responded to the findings of various Trinitarian theologians of his time he quotes extensively.


For more details about JJC Chenevière I refer you to the article by Marc Chenevière (his great-great-grand-son): "Jean-Jacques Cato Chenevière In 1831, the mirror of his correspondence published in the book entitled "Protestant Geneva in 1831 (Acts of the symposium held to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the establishment of the Evangelical Society of Geneva and the publication of Le Protestant Geneva ), published in editions Labor et Fides (1983). It is still available.


See the article "Jean-Jacques Cato Chenevière in 1831 to mirror his correspondence" in limited picture (page 91):


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Also some of his books available in electronic form on Google Books or reprinted on these sites:


Electronic format


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Reprints


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article on the union of the Protestant (Geneva) and Gospel and Freedom:


http://www.evangile-et-liberte.net/article_280_evangile-et-liberte-et-Le-Protestant


* The "Awakening" is a reactionary movement born in the Protestantism, on British soil first and then extended to the rest of the Protestant world. It is an effort to return to the dogmas of the churches with whom the then tended to distance. The clock has its counterpart in modern evangelical churches called "fundamentalists." He is opposed to the "Evangelical Liberalism" which advocates a reading of sacred texts free of any dogma, tends to reject the authority of the doctors of the Church and the councils and encourages worship accompanied by the use of the heart and reason.

** Methodism is a church founded in the 18th century by the English preacher John Wesley (1703-1791). She flowered in England and the U.S. but also strongly influenced the Protestant churches in the world.

*** criticism in theology is a scientific reading of the text of the Bible which tends to expose weaknesses in the historical and literary. It is considered by some as an improvement, but by others as an obstacle to faith.


Tuesday, May 4, 2010

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How Jesus became God by Frederic Lenoir

Frédéric Lenoir is a philosopher, editor of the magazine "The world of religions" and producer of the show "The Roots of Heaven" broadcast on France Culture .

True to his passion, the author specializing in issues of religion gives us here the fruits of his work on the question of the divinity of Christ. How

Christian texts, those of the Bible and the Fathers of the Church, have presented Jesus Through the first centuries and how the councils supported by the political authorities have decided the issue.

He shares his personal opinion, reminds us in passing the opinion of historians and critics, all with the concerns to be heard by all those who have mastered the subject, but also those who are unfamiliar with Judaism The Bible and the traditions of the Church.

A beautiful book, a story that takes us back to the origins of Christianity, Jesus as the men were described as well as they wanted ...

website Frédéric Lenoir: http://www.fredericlenoir.com

Videos with Frédéric Lenoir: http://video.google.fr/videosearch?hl=fr&safe=off&rlz=1G1GGLQ_FRFR304 & q =% C3% Fr% C3% A9d A9ric% 20Lenoir & um = 1 & ie = UTF-8 & sa = N & tab = wv #

Books on the same subject :

Richard E. Rubenstein, "The day when Jesus became God"

Gerard Israel "Is Jesus God? "




Thursday, November 12, 2009

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1544: At odds with Calvin Sebastian Castellon should leave Geneva

Article published in the newspaper La Tribune de Genève of March 14, 2009.

http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu/1544-brouille-calvin-sebastien-castellion-quitter-geneve-2009-03-13

history

© International Museum of reform post master e-school. Yet the dream of Castellon is to become pastor ...
Châteillon Sebastian (he Latinized his name later) was born in 1515, the year of the Battle of Marignano to Ingalls. He is six years younger than Calvin. "Nobody knows how this son of a peasant was able to study," said Vincent Schmid, making him the third man in his recent book on Michael Servetus (1). Without doubt he is a child prodigy. A nobleman or a clergyman should then encourage young talent appeared on their land.
Revelation Lyon

Castellio with known life thanks to the enormous work of Ferdinand Buisson, published in 1892, therefore his schooling at La Trinidad de Lyon, a college renowned humanist. "In this city at the top of his business, the Lutheran ideas were quickly circulated," continues Vincent Schmid, who is also pastor of St. Peter. "The student has read The institution of the Christian Religion by Calvin, released in Latin in Basel. This is his revelation. " By an accident which is not quite one, Bressan meeting Calvin, then in exile in Strasbourg. We here in 1541. "It seems he even lived with him. "We swim so fast theological romance. Recalled to Geneva, Picard takes Castellon in his luggage.
Their ideas differ, however, fast enough. "Calvin, like Servetus believed that God spoke to him. It is an inspiration. "Castellon appears more open. "Compared to his master, who remains in many respects a representative of the Middle Ages, he announced Modern Times." Dissident defends the Anabaptists. He denounces the collusion of civil and religious. He finally asks a plurality of votes within the same church.

The Holy Trinity? A brainchild

To enlarge the opening, Castellon even offers a common denominator. Everyone must believe in one God, omnipotent, eternal and creator. With the Trinity, we enter the speculative domain already. "A revolution." This is indeed the apple of discord since the Council of Nicaea in 325. How can Christ be both God and man, eh? I ask you! The question Trinity is thus at the heart of the trial of Michael Servetus in 1553. For the English doctor Jesus is the son of God. He will go to the stake, in Champel, saying "Jesus son of God eternal" and not, as it should, "Jesus, son of God eternal." The idea Castellio our revolt, taking refuge in Basel. There is an all trades (sawyer, water-carrier ...) to feed her eight children before teaching Greek at the famous University City.

Castellio thus takes its most beautiful pen. He will defend the post mortem heretic. "Killing a man is not defending a doctrine is to kill a man," he wrote in his libel against Calvin. The sentence made a fortune. She spends the first assertion of religious tolerance. The problem is Castellio that has not published during his lifetime. His book does not appear, and the Netherlands, in 1613.

Posterity Dutch and French

"Castellon has been out three of his books," says Pastor Schmid, "including his superb translation of the Bible." Why such caution? "I see pressure. Calvin, who was a network, could infiltrate Basel. The University of that city had to play its role in threatening the author of sanctions. "Hellenization took his post. He died in 1563, exhausted and disappointed, a few months before his enemy Geneva. The exile will not be quite forgotten. "Let's say he comes and goes in religious history." Castellon in 1619 will be cited at the Synod of Dort, which compete hawks and doves of Protestantism. Read Spinoza.

"Pierre Bayle speaks of him in his Dictionnaire historique et critique of 1697, seemed cautiously in Rotterdam. It is no accident that finally Bush chose as a subject of contention in the nineteenth. "A former pastor has been in France the apostle of secularism." Then came Stefan Zweig. The Viennese took the opportunity to bring Calvin Hitler. Dammit!


(1) "Michel Servet, Du stake to freedom of conscience", Vincent Schmid, Editions Paris-Max Chaleil, 176 pages


The case of the atheist Jacques Gruet

Its tolerance mean that it is ready for anything Castellio admit? No. A case, too black to be discussed during a Jubilee Calvin very consensual, proves it. This is the trial of Jacques Gruet. The story takes place in 1547, while Bressan is long gone, but it makes noise. In June 1947, therefore, a poster placards Gruet the chair of St. Peter. She talks about "fucking renegade priests who come to ruin."

The culprit is quickly identified. You can find him in the manuscripts. For Gruet, the laws of Moses "have no other origin than the whims of men." The opinion of Calvin on the immortality of the soul remains a "Faribole. The afterlife does not exist. The important thing is to live the moment, messed up the rules established by the Consistory. His trial is that of free-thinking. Not a word of Castellon. "Gruet fate of the famous minimal framework. For our theologian and an atheist remains a monster. "There is no place for him. The heretic believes in God. Jew and Muslim, on the edge too. With an empty sky, we enter the do-maine the unthinkable. "


Brule wordlessly

In these circumstances, the unfortunate Gruet be burned on July 26 remains normal to Castellon. "Remember that the skepticism of Montaigne is very discreet. The official purpose of civil society remains, in the sixteenth century, the worship of God. "In the twenty-first, the question still arises. One European country has it not banned a few weeks ago, an advertisement for atheism "For the sake of practicing believers"? So do not be surprised if Servetus Street and has its expiatory monument, while Gruet nothing. It took on the enormous work of Amédée Roget Geneva in 1870 for man kind of oblivion. What do you want? The story goes Martyrs respectable. Is everything lost for the forgotten in 1547? Not quite. As recalled Bernard Lescaze, the phrase chosen to adorn a wall of this space was that libertarian Ilôt 13, behind the station, Gruet is signed. "If a man wants to eat well, others have nothing to do with it, and if I want to dance, jump, lead a merry life, what to do justice? "(ed)